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    Question Is the deserter punishment still justified?

    So I just wanted to play a casual match. I got a DC in the charakter selection and got thrown out the lobby. The result: deserter for 30 minutes. Why it is 30 minutes is beyond me, because my last deserter was weeks ago - but that's not my point here.

    I asked myself: is deserter still justified?
    Sure, it exists to punish players who left a lobby before the match starts. But what's the big deal? Everyone else waiting another minute to find another match? That doesn't sound so bad.

    So here's my idea:
    Remove the deserter pnushment in casual games completely. I'd keep it in ranked since it takes longer to find matches and our elo depends on it - but in casual? We don't have anything to lose or win there.

    In ranked I'd give someone deserter, if he or she leaves a running match. If it's due to a DC or crash, they'll come back and reconnect and everything is fine. If they don't and they reconnect after the match is over - they'll get deserter. Wouldn't that make more sense?

    Also - we all know how often this game can crash out of nowhere. All deserter punishments I got in my 1000+ hours of playtime, I got because of DCs or crashes. At this point it's like getting punished for something the developers did wrong.
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    For casual, 30 minutes seems high but I believe there still needs to be punishment.
    A casual for me usually takes around 2:45 to get a match.
    If someone gets selfish because they can't get X champion then I have to wait another 2:45.
    This could happen multiple times in a row.
    Without a deserter penalty it could even be the same person causing it.

    ELO in all modes matters. As your ELO drops you get put in matches with lower and lower skilled players. Please no.

    I could see a minimum 5 minute penalty for casual as being acceptable.

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    The time to wait is much higher in ranked than "another minute", the picking procedure alone takes 5 minutes easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3RC3N4RI0 View Post
    The time to wait is much higher in ranked than "another minute", the picking procedure alone takes 5 minutes easily.
    You know that I was talking about casual, right?
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    I've even opened a ticket for this. Since they cannot control all those disconnections, I've asked them to bring back old deserter penalty: first one in 24 hours is 1 minute, second one 2 minutes, third 15 minutes, then 30. At least, if you are disconnected not for bad team but for bad servers, you would not see your whole evening wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkure View Post
    I've even opened a ticket for this. Since they cannot control all those disconnections, I've asked them to bring back old deserter penalty: first one in 24 hours is 1 minute, second one 2 minutes, third 15 minutes, then 30. At least, if you are disconnected not for bad team but for bad servers, you would not see your whole evening wasted.
    I suggested 5 minute minimum to create a stagger for the selfish pig person. I would hate for that person to keep causing me to re-Q over and over.

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    You shall remember that the one experiencing all those penalties one after another are not the serial leavers, but just normal players with not so stable connection. If you start directly from 5, they would find themselves in 30 min penalty in a blink :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkure View Post
    You shall remember that the one experiencing all those penalties one after another are not the serial leavers, but just normal players with not so stable connection. If you start directly from 5, they would find themselves in 30 min penalty in a blink :-/
    Well OK, but a person getting constant disconnects is hurting others too. This is a large topic in itself so I won't go into it further.

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    I randomly DC'd while I was in casual queue earlier. Took a few seconds to make sure I was connected to the correct wifi source in our house and reconnected to a deserter that was just over 1:30. So I guess it was a 2min deserter??

    Also if a player disconnects AKA their profile shouldn't be considered active right?? Why wouldn't they be auto removed from queue? It was a short deserter, but if it was longer I would've been pretty peeved (esp since in the time it took me to reconnect if I'd been added to a match I could've chosen a champ still)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyOoker View Post
    Well OK, but a person getting constant disconnects is hurting others too. This is a large topic in itself so I won't go into it further.
    Yes, you have a point here, but you shall remember that the disconnections are not happening due to the player's connection, but due to HiRez servers. In this moment, HiRez is punishing players for its own servers are bad :-/

    Missy, from what I've experienced, the deserter time duration depends on the moment you are disconnected. If it's before you've locked thechamp, it's 30 min.
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