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    Vivian buffs or rework needed.

    Ever since Vivian was added a lot of people hated on her because she was "overpowered", yet here we are with a champion that is bottom of the barrel when it comes to tier lists and hardly picked in competitive matches.

    No mobility, shield that takes taken down in 3 shots or 1 if enemy has wrecker and quite a bit of damage falloff. She gets destroyed by any flank that knows the basics of flanking,hell even by most damage dealers.

    She gets no love because she competes in a game where you have BK , Lian , Cassie , Shalin that do what she does with more ease and more effective.

    Buff Vivian, either bring back her original 220 damage per shot or rework some of her kit. I hate how champions like her and Skye get all the hate and almost never get to be played because they are overshadowed by the others.

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    She doesn't get picked because she boring to play and in ranked she a liability. With her cards set to no ammo lose she was a massive OP champ with that 220 + her LC which gave her more damage buff for just no moving. I the current game shes ok to be effective with her the player need to be aware of how to place him/her self.

    But still a dumb and boring play style champ just press LMB.

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    What's boring or not is subjective , i actually like her.

    She is a liability though in most cases,hence the thread. She needs some changes.

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    Buffing her damage would just make her more OP in low tier and still useless in high tier. Her damage isn't the problem, she can do plenty. The problem is she has zero mobility. Her kit is more like a FLs but she doesn't have the health or a strong enough shield for that.

    She needs a complete rework to be viable. I don't know what that would look like but she's not going to be viable as is even with stupidly OP damage.

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    She also needs a different weapon sfx. Whenever a Vivian is in the game all you will hear is:

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    Its annoying af.

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    Less damage dropoff and a higher shield health pool would be a decent change if a rework is too much to ask for.

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    wrecker makes her so useless. it'd be cool if her ult did something more than "now you do more damage" maybe her deployables could move independently like drones or something? she's pretty brain dead and the worst hit scan in the game. they should have left her the way she was at her release.

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    what she needs is her deployable to actually have an use

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    Well, since Vivi is all about high tech , with her shield , crystal powered weapon etc.

    Maybe her deployable could be a small robot that follows her around ? Attacks her current target or soak some damage for her ?

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    Here is What she needs


    -Full Shield- I will argue That the whole hit at her feet thing while good against Some Characters, Sucks against, Snipers, and AOE Blasters. Make it a Full body shield and maybe lower the time the Shield is active. The CD for the shield is already pretty big so it should be fairly Balanced


    - Sensor Drones(enhanced)- IMO I think That Sensor Drone Should Stay relativity the same With a few added Features.
    Number one they should have an Attack. Now I'll explain, When In The Range of the Sensor Drone Not only will reveal Them the Drone will also start to do damage in the form of a 3 shot burst for 351 every 0.7 seconds. Also When in a Drone's Range the character will be crippled while in the area. This will actually make the sensor Drones an actual Threat. Also for balance Reasons, The Senor CD will be increased to 12s And Joyless Eyes Will become {7.5|7.5}%(this might be too weak) Note The Cripple will not work when upside down, or on a wall.


    -Others-
    Her Gun while having a lot of Ammo really isn't that crazy strong, maybe annoying at best, Plus she moves really slow while shooting.


    Iron Sights is Just Iron Sights Doesn't really need a change. I do Propose That Only when in Iron Sights her Damage Drop-off is lower.


    While her Ultimate is Powerful, its not that much different then a Typical Ult. Although it technical lasts forever, in a normal Match your drones will maybe last a round and a half, before Dying from random Shots.
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