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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenstar View Post
    Lol most often I envision the suits at HiRez like the parents who try hard to be hip and relevant to the teens but failing miserably They really do not know how to do it.


    Also, excerpt from the Forbes article about the news -

    "Specifically, we found a Facebook group that our community formed without us, and was twice the size of our Reddit community that we were paying a lot of attention to," says (HiRez COO Todd) Harris. "We then created a group that we moderate and participate in and grew it from 0-to-30,000 players in just one month."

    I just wanna facepalm at how much they base their business decisions off the reddit community. A group of 30k on facebook does NOT mean you will get stream viewers on fb
    Exactly.

    They need to become more gamer-friendly and focus on chipping out high quality content. Whilst it may not be as profitable now, it'll prove to be significant in the future, and may increase chances of F2P faking the plunge to actualy buy crystals and stuff.

    This may require some changes, but I think simply bringing in more community feedback from the people and the professional players should allow the game and company to grow exponentially over time.

    Hi-Rez does some weird shit sometimes, really makes me question things. For example, The Casters, the new Youtube Series competition; why is it in existence? I don't understand. That's valuable money that could've been used to further improve the game, that could then create more market share in the gaming industry, and thus, generate more profit, whilst allowing the eSports scene to work to a higher degree. I mean, like c'mon, the profit potential is WAY higher than a measly series about casters.

    If Hi-Rez made streaming on Twitch TV and focused more on the game, they could drastically increase both the profitability and longevity of the game, the next League of Legends if you will.

    In all honestly though, I don't even know if the PPL was a good idea. The game is so young and is still in beta, its market share flops in comparison to others, so why not focus of the release of fhe full game first, with all the dramatic graphics, gameplay and stability improvements, THEN working on an esporfs scene. This could be seen as being comparable to the console releases, which, don't get me wrong, aren't that bad, but just, time-consuming for a smaller company that should focus the main product; quality over quantity people.


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    Even Wallachia doesn't know the reason.... As a Facebook user, I don't even watch weekly Paladins tournament stream, heck I don't even watch 90% of videos (or shared posts), and I don't think I will watch PPL there.
    One thing I do know Paladins Official Facebook is full of two kinds of regulars : (So much that I avoid going there)
    1. Noobs asking for nerf
    2. Overwatch fanboys

    I think this is a poor move by Hi-rez and since this is the first season of PPL, I have doubts on its future
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    1st of all I will say that I disagree with facebook only streams and not streaming tournaments on twitch, facebook video streaming systems is shitty and there is not so many people watching there.

    But as I recall some streamers were complaining that if PaladinsGame streams they have no viewers and that it kills the streaming community of sorts coz everyone would be watching PaladinsGame.
    The issue is that tournaments are held daily for couple of hours every day, if they were streamed on Twitch everyone would only be watching those and not streamers playing, so they stream it on other media and leave twitch for typical streamers.

    Now since I personally dislike watching streamers, I find them very annoying, but I love watching tournaments I think that not streaming tournaments on Twitch is stupid and they would be far more popular if it was streamed on right media.
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    I know I won't watch streams on Facebook at all.
    When I was playing more I used to watch streams every once in a while, it would start with paladinsgame and then I would move and check out other streams. What ended up happening is I spent time watching other streamers I wouldn't have before. I might be a minority in that, or maybe a majority no way to know; it is food for thought though.
    I personally think this move is simply Hi-Rez getting caught up with a number of businesses not understanding what they are doing and just go with what the mob has been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neravarine View Post
    1st of all I will say that I disagree with facebook only streams and not streaming tournaments on twitch, facebook video streaming systems is shitty and there is not so many people watching there.

    But as I recall some streamers were complaining that if PaladinsGame streams they have no viewers and that it kills the streaming community of sorts coz everyone would be watching PaladinsGame.
    The issue is that tournaments are held daily for couple of hours every day, if they were streamed on Twitch everyone would only be watching those and not streamers playing, so they stream it on other media and leave twitch for typical streamers.

    Now since I personally dislike watching streamers, I find them very annoying, but I love watching tournaments I think that not streaming tournaments on Twitch is stupid and they would be far more popular if it was streamed on right media.
    I agree. It doesn't make sense to put the streams on a social media platform, but rather, a dedicated game streaming service.


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    At my workplace it is impossible to stream or watch videos on the wifi. But the facebook stream works for some reason.
    I have to add, I am serious at work, no slacking of. But in psyc-healthcare we often sit in a office on evenings and nights, out of sight from patients, but we still can hear them and react if needed. Patients learn to socialise with other people, and not just uniformed healthcare providers this way. So on the slow evenings and nights there can be alot of waiting, and then, Paladins on facebook is golden!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wibee View Post
    At my workplace it is impossible to stream or watch videos on the wifi. But the facebook stream works for some reason.
    I have to add, I am serious at work, no slacking of. But in psyc-healthcare we often sit in a office on evenings and nights, out of sight from patients, but we still can hear them and react if needed. Patients learn to socialise with other people, and not just uniformed healthcare providers this way. So on the slow evenings and nights there can be alot of waiting, and then, Paladins on facebook is golden!
    Thats actually nice

    I won't deny there would be SOME advantages (as in your case) to streaming on Paladins. Its not like they're streaming on something completely inaccessible. But the main demographic of the audience is elsewhere. So they're catching only a much smaller section of people.

    Its like airing Days of our Lives (sorry couldn't think of a more relevant run-of-the-mill daily soap ) on the National Geographic channel.. Its not the go-to channel watched by most people who'd enjoy the show or more importantly, not the channel they go to, for similar content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenstar View Post
    Thats actually nice

    I won't deny there would be SOME advantages (as in your case) to streaming on Paladins. Its not like they're streaming on something completely inaccessible. But the main demographic of the audience is elsewhere. So they're catching only a much smaller section of people.

    Its like airing Days of our Lives (sorry couldn't think of a more relevant run-of-the-mill daily soap ) on the National Geographic channel.. Its not the go-to channel watched by most people who'd enjoy the show or more importantly, not the channel they go to, for similar content.
    Absolutely.
    Though if Twitch TV and Youtube was less demanding, we'd have an even better situation.


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    I'm new to the game (love it so far) and today I was so confused as to why the stream was only at FB. I don't even have a FB account anymore. FB is for old people. Not a big deal to me I guess but it sure would be nice to watch those on YouTube or Twitch, preferably YT.

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