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    Ranked 2.0 matchmaking

    Okay, so I got tired of answering people desperate threads of "the end of ranked.
    1- First of all we are still in the very first hours of the new system, no matter how you look at it is too soon to say it is a fail, the system barely started to work.

    2- I really can't understand why are you guys so worried about provisional games, please remember that this isn't that old junky system that used to give/take ridiculous amount of points for win/losses in provisionals, so if you lose now, it aint the end of the world ffs.

    3- Haven't you guys ever played any other competitive game? Don't you know how rank systems work?
    In this new system, player 1,2 and 3 get matched all together in the first matches. But eventually player 1 will fall into bronze V cause he isn't ready for ranked yet, but jumped into it for a skin or just to see how it works and where he would end up. Player 2 will be around silver I or gold V, because even though he lost a few matches in the beggining because he got matched with bad teammates, he slowly started to get less bad teammates and win games, because bad players sinked into the depts of the suckness. And player 3 climbed all the way to plat I, almost Diamond V, simply because he is above the rest, and won the games over people that wasn't on his skill level.
    If you end your provisionals in bronze, and can't carry a victory against what you consider to be bad players, this is happening because you are, believe or not, IN THE SAME LEVEL AS THEY ARE. If you are better than a bronze you will keep winning and slowly going up, and eventually will get to the point where you can't carry games anymore, because players are in a skill level similar to yours. That is how it works.
    Last time I checked (yesterday), there weren't a single soul over Diamond III, actually there was no one IN Diamon III, NO ONE. Not even the pros of the game, the best players IN THE FKG WORLD ended provisionals where they obviously belong, but does it means that they arent going to get there? OF COURSE NOT!
    Again, please stop complaining about a system that doesn't work YET. At least give it a bit of time to properly work.
    I still don't like OB58

    (nor any other patch after that one)

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    Like we have given too much time already on casual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouFuub View Post
    Like we have given too much time already on casual.
    Casuals are a whole different story, there you don't have a rank, you have no party limit, as well as no ELO diffence limit in party. Casuals take an ELO average and place teams together around it.
    The focus of my thread is the new ranked system, not casuals.
    I still don't like OB58

    (nor any other patch after that one)

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    Hey wallachia, please feel free to move the thread if this ain't the right place to it.
    I still don't like OB58

    (nor any other patch after that one)

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    Haven't tried the new ranked yet. But yeah, it seems people are quick to overreact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelganger7 View Post
    if you end your provisionals in bronze, and can't carry a victory against what you consider to be bad players, this is happening because you are, believe or not, in the same level as they are. If you are better than a bronze you will keep winning and slowly going up, and eventually will get to the point where you can't carry games anymore, because players are in a skill level similar to yours. That is how it works.
    soooooo trueeeee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadEngineer View Post
    Haven't tried the new ranked yet. But yeah, it seems people are quick to overreact.
    Overreaction kinda have become this forum's trademark
    I still don't like OB58

    (nor any other patch after that one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOPPELGANGER7 View Post
    Casuals are a whole different story, there you don't have a rank, you have no party limit, as well as no ELO diffence limit in party. Casuals take an ELO average and place teams together around it.
    The focus of my thread is the new ranked system, not casuals.
    You really haven't follow deep the developement well I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouFuub View Post
    You really haven't follow deep the developement well I guess...
    Really? Well, then teach me! I'd really like to know more about it, and I'm sure the rest of the community would like too. Sarcastic comments aren't of much help ykow
    I still don't like OB58

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOPPELGANGER7 View Post
    Really? Well, then teach me! I'd really like to know more about it, and I'm sure the rest of the community would like too. Sarcastic comments aren't of much help ykow
    It would be nice to know what TouFuub thinks. My understanding is that Hir-rez has been relatively tight-lipped about the details of their casual match making. Based on my understanding of third-party websites, you are correct, teams are put together based on sum total team ELO. This would stay in line with my experience of individual team-members having huge variation in skill in Casual, but much less so in the old competitive.

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