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    Quote Originally Posted by Actionpoohole View Post
    I'm 3k Casual ELO and I've had 800ELO players turning the games into 4v5s... They don't speak, they don't buy items, they don't get on the point, they don't do any damage, they often afk.

    So the MM is fuct.
    I know MM suck, I get matched with players lvl 6,7,8,9 literally learning how to walk and aim. But look at what OP is writing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaoShun View Post
    I know MM suck, I get matched with players lvl 6,7,8,9 literally learning how to walk and aim. But look at what OP is writing....
    I'm guessing for casual games the matchmaking is more interested in getting games going because, well, it's "casual".

    Curious if with the new competitive Matchmaking if they also adjust casual MM. Time will tell.

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    Im honestly getting tired of getting a good casual game where both sides are good, and then we win but after that I get a match with players at 1100 ELO who cant stand on a point when there's literally no enemies around and then just give up because they die a couple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaladreips View Post
    Mathematical background behind ELO makes everyone converge to 50% win/loss stats because ELO drop after loss is equal to ELO gain after win (excluding modifiers such as average elo etc).
    Let's say my real elo is 2000. I start at a supposed 1500. I am put against 1500 players. I win. My elo raises. I am put against 1600 players. I wind, my elo raises...
    Rinse and repeat, till I reach 2000.
    I am put against 2100 players. I loose, my elo is decreased. So, in the end, I win and loose 50% of times, and my elo is oscillating around 2000.
    This is theory.

    But what's happening if at 1700 elo, you are put against 2500 players, with 1300 players in your team? Guess what? You loose. So, is your elo 1700, or is the system forcing that winrate to you?
    I don't have any problems in loosing, if the game is balanced. Putting newbies in my team against full diamond compositions is not balance. And, guess what!, this happens ONLY when I am on a winning streak.

    Or the game where Bugzy was paired with full level-below-30 composition was just "balanced"?
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    My elo currently is i believe 1400-1500. I have 200 hours on this game i am not that bad i know it. I have a 50% winrate.
    Mm sucks. Competetive is a whole different thing. I got pretty even matches and all stayed at 3600. Then i dropped to 3400 back to 3600. Now i am at 3300. Still at 50% winrate. I am not that fucking bad. The losses arent even games they are getting stomped, so are the wins. If matchups are even, you can make a difference with own performance. I sometimes get them, sometimes i make my team win, sometimes if i did better we couldve won. Sometimes its an even matchup but someone doesnt pick for team or afks. Its a gamble.

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    http://imgur.com/a/25EHr

    This is a match where a bunch of super good players were all on the same team vs a team of average players with me.

    You can see that they were in a party but why wre they put against us? None of us were even close to their ELO. Shouldmn't being in a party put you against higher ELO players not us?

    At least i only lost 1 ELO.
    Last edited by AARPONG; 07-17-2017 at 08:41 AM.
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    Look like ma flask made you slower.

    I don't wanna heal the tank, Toniiiiii-ight.

    I've already killed the flank, Toniiiiii-ight.

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    We can't see the pic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkure View Post
    We can't see the pic!
    Right click it and open in new tab.
    Every Pip's favourite song lyrics:

    Drogoz main is flying far away.

    Come to make my ELO lower.

    So little champs I wanna play.

    Look like ma flask made you slower.

    I don't wanna heal the tank, Toniiiiii-ight.

    I've already killed the flank, Toniiiiii-ight.

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    No, no, I completely can't see any link, preview, thumb, anything. :-/
    I've finally found it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkure View Post
    No, no, I completely can't see any link, preview, thumb, anything. :-/
    http://imgur.com/a/25EHr

    try copying this in your browser?

    I don't use pictures often so I don't know what is wrong.
    Every Pip's favourite song lyrics:

    Drogoz main is flying far away.

    Come to make my ELO lower.

    So little champs I wanna play.

    Look like ma flask made you slower.

    I don't wanna heal the tank, Toniiiiii-ight.

    I've already killed the flank, Toniiiiii-ight.

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